Rachel Ray continues to offer an honest look at her marriage to John Cusimano.

During the Tuesday, October 29 episode of his “I’ll Sleep When I’m Dead” PodcastRay, 56, told a guest Billy Crudup on the secret to a successful relationship.

“I am extremely lucky to have my husband,” she exclaimed. “But he understands that I need my space.”

Ray explained that Cusimano, 57, also likes to have time to himself, adding: “He needs his space. John and I largely stay in separate corners.

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Earlier this month, Ray admitted that she and Cusimano have had “huge shouting matches” in the past.

“It’s very difficult, especially for people who are angry or creative or loud, to be able to just calm down,” she said. Jenny Mollen during the first episode of his podcast. “John and I never calm down. We have huge screaming matches all the time, but I think it’s healthy. Really. And I don’t trust people who are too quiet.

Ray discovered that being too quiet “freaked her out.” “Let’s just let this all out,” she noted. “Eventually I caress his butt, or he kisses me on the head, and that’s kind of it. These are the excuses. It’s just kind of understood.

After meeting in 2001, Ray and Cusimano dated for several years before exchanging vows in 2005.

“We balance each other, we always have,” she told People in 2022. “We knew we would get through this together.”

Ray and Cusimano’s romance it has not been without challenges However. In 2020, Ray remembers having to adjust to being in close contact amid the COVID pandemic.

“John and I have always worked together, but in separate buildings. John focuses on business relationships and all the different facets of our brand while I do studio TV shows all day,” Ray said. Us every week exclusively in August 2020. “But now we do everything together, which is of course a huge adjustment. »

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Their quarantine work the arrangement helped the couple learn more about each other.

“I think we now have a better understanding of the role each of us played behind the scenes,” Ray continued. “Usually I don’t get to hear what he does on all the business calls that might happen in a day…and he doesn’t see the amount of work that goes into making TV shows. »

Ray’s frankness has extended to his own health of late, with the cookbook author revealing she suffered “a few bad falls”.

“I am a housewife. I really like housework. I like what people consider physical work. I like cooking dinner, planning dinners, making lists. I like physical work , help carry the wood,” she revealed on her podcast in October “I had a few bad falls in the last few weeks, so I haven’t done that in a while.”