CNN Brianna Keilar questioned the point of Vivek Ramaswamy the argument that the only way to prevent widespread voter fraud in the United States is to require paper ballots, a single day of voting nationwideand government ID required.

The billionaire and former presidential candidate spoke with Keilar on Monday, a day after he defended his ideas to the former president. that of Donald Trump Rally at Madison Square Garden.

“Most people have a paper ballot and a paper trail…to show how they voted. So this idea that a bunch of people vote and it just sort of goes off into the ether – that doesn’t happen. We’re talking about the vast majority of people,” Keilar said.

“Also, regarding ID, this idea of ​​non-citizen voting – it’s already illegal for non-citizens to vote in federal elections with the threat of prosecution and deportation as a deterrent , which may explain why it’s just not happening in significant numbers, including in your home country… I’m just wondering if you’re promoting a solution to solve problems that don’t exist?

Ramaswamy replied: “I am promoting a solution to a problem that do exists, that is to say the loss of public confidence in the elections against a backdrop of electoral fraud which is real. No one denies the existence…”

Keiler interrupted: “So why do you think there’s a loss of trust?”

RAMASWAMY: Whoa, whoa, whoa, you said you didn’t interrupt me, Brianna, and now you’re interrupting me.

KEILAR: Well, now I’m doing it because we’re short on time.

RAMASWAMY: Can I please answer the question?

KEILAR: Why do you think there is a loss of confidence?

RAMASWAMY: I think there is a loss of confidence because there are an unknown number of illegal migrants in this country, and I think there is a big loss of trust because people are opposed to the idea of ​​using voter ID cards. The same IDs you need to drive a car, why is it wrong to use them to become a requirement for voting? The fact that people are calling this “racist” to shut down the debate? Yes, I think it breeds public distrust. I do.

The two continued to interrupt each other before Keilar said, “I just want to be clear, you’re talking about this idea that you have all these imaginary illegal immigrants voting. This is simply not true!

Watch the exchange above via CNN.

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