If you know your gaming chairs, there’s a brand that will make your head spin with equal parts intrigue and disappointment. Herman Miller makes incredibly good chairs with excellent ergonomics. They also make very expensive seats, which is why the majority of us feel like we have to settle for less.

Alas, Black Friday season is upon us, and as Michael Bublé slowly defrosts in preparation for Christmas, the first deals begin rolling in throughout the month of November. Herman Miller just launched its first sales, with a 25% discount storewide. For those looking for gaming chair deals, this is good news. This brings the Herman Miller Embody down $2,275 to $1,706and the Herman Miller Vantum from $895 to $671.